My name is Rachel Obanubi. Welcome to my blog on Christianity. I am a Christian and autistic.

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Why does suffering happen in life with God in charge, the Elizabeth Fritzl case looked at again through Christianity

Hi everyone, I felt a sense to post this post. I read an article about an MP called Kemi Badenoch in the UK that was about their faith. They said that they had lost their faith in Christianity because of a case in the media about a woman called Elizabeth Fritzl which proved to be the final catalyst for them leaving the faith to adopt Christian values. In the article Kemi argued that God didn’t intervene in this case for over 20 years. On reading this I felt that we will never know how God may have been involved and that  God may have intervened in this case.

The Christian faith does not work on giving messages to strangers  to resolve cases of crime. This is consulting mediums and also may be known as the spirit of divination which the faith does not support (Deuteronomy 18:10-12). In this case the mother didn’t know that their child was in captive. We do not know if God through their spirit however tried to give Elizabeth or her mother instincts to help them to escape earlier and they didn’t respond to them earlier. This is line with how the spirit can work in cases like this in the Christian faith.

The father exhibited evil behaviour whether he was mentally ill himself or not and this is not the fault of God, but of sin and or being human.  People can behave in an evil manner because of temptation and they have their own will to act but this not the fault of God who  does good. Today.God disciplines his adopted children through Jesus out of love and not because of their sins and today God does not punish our enemies in the present world, but he can protect us from our enemies (Hebrews 12:4-11). 

Original sin came into the world with Adam with creation. God calls us to be obedient and Christ is the only perfect one and we are to imitate him and we need to have our identity in Christ and do his will (2 Thessalonians 3:7-12). People have their own will and choices and may choose to behave in an abominable manner and paths of evil (1 Corinthians 6:9). God has a perfect will for us and evil leads to corruption and a rejection of God’s light. God can and does respond, in sometimes unknowing ways to us, he always listens and sometimes his response isn’t a worldly one.

Trauma too is complicated, it can have a paralysing effect on the body leading into inaction and this is when we need to step in and help.  Elizabeth to may have had other conditions early in life that affected her thinking. Being lost and afraid and still in a youth’s mind as a adult, they are vulnerable. Autumn Miles spirit of God told her when being abused she wrote in her own testimony of her life to find a way out. 

We do not know what happened inside or what was happening with Elizabeth. There is a law in Leviticus not to partake in incest (Leviticus 18:6-26). This pertained to the Israelites and we are under Christ's law as Christians.  Unequal domination over another the Bible to does not support (Galatians 3:28).  I must state although this was not Elizabeth’s fault and this was her lived reality which was forced on her and God loved her this may have been a barrier for intervention from God along this timeline this possibility and this I do not know, but it is  thought. Also, was Elizabeth baptised to allow more communication from God's spirit to communicate with Elizabeth during this time.

I also did not see reports myself that Elizabeth was praying during this time every day as claimed in the lead article. I imagine that her soul was overwhelmed at many points during this time (Psalm 143). I have been unwell at times in my life and then I needed people to pray for me. After some time with trauma your lived reality may become normalised to you. We also need to stop an activity sometimes for God to manifest. God though cares for the afflicted and this is his promise to them and it is written in Psalm 72 "May he defend the afflicted among the people. For he will deliver the needy who cry out, the afflicted who have no one to help. He will take pity on the weak and the needy." God hates violence to as Psalm 11 tells us "The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. God is about justice and takes retribution himself for evil in the end. God's spirit will not striveth with man forever (Genesis 6:3).

The below is from Autumn Mile's extract-     
In that moment, the Spirit of God said: “Do you remember me?” I knew it was the Lord. When the creator speaks to the created, their soul stands to attention. I knew he was referencing my childhood. I said: “Yes, I remember you, but if you’re so real, how could you let this happen to me?” Then I said: “If you’re actually real, you’ve got to speak now. You’ve got to show me.”

I saw a Bible in the corner of the room. I flipped it open on Psalm 91:16: “With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.” Nobody knew I was contemplating suicide, but God did. Psalm 91 saved my life that night. It was my moment of conversion. I literally fell on the floor and asked Jesus to come into my heart and save me."  

Being a Christian doesn’t mean that things will always be easy and even with protection through the Holy Spirit we may encounter hardship, but Christ will have played his part he wanted to in  your life. We can be tested as the Bible says, but Jesus gives us his Holy Spirit the Comforter to make things easier which is his promise to us in John. 

God's intervention today largely happens through the Holy Spirit. The spirit of God can weaken evil (Mark 5). I have seen the Spirit of God's presence overpowering someone to and them fell into a stupor and a person could make time to flea that place, it gave me time to recover from an incident which was critical. God's Holy Spirit can also make people supernaturally strong temporarily divinely to cope with tragedy and to overcome evil. "He gives power to the faint and increases the strength of the weak(Jude 1:24).  

God also doesn’t give people what overwhelms them and if this happens he will provide a way out and we have to be ready to hear it.  (1 Corinthians 10:13) promises that God will not allow believers to be tempted beyond their ability to endure, and will always provide a way to escape the temptation. We have to trust him and do not have to actually try and work out all his actions, but just trust as the Book of Proverbs say (Proverbs 3:5-6). Jesus said that the yoke that he gives us is light to carry, but if it is not-the Beatitudes are in line with that we will be glorified for the persecution and test if it is the will of God in the eternal life and justice will come.

Sometimes if people do not do the will of God, God may appear silent or he may leave that place until they respect his word. Sometimes his answers to may not provide the solution we are looking for but they may provide a better alternative and we need to keep going and leave our old ways behind until we learn to let go of our way of doing things.

Natural disasters are a part of the world and we know with the end times that will have affliction to, but we need to hold on as Christians for the promise of eternal life. We need to hold onto our faith and Holy Spirit to survive the afflictions. Some people think we are in the end times now.

There is something to called God’s perfect timing for a person and it is an individual thing for each person and we all have our own relationship with God, Moses was on probation for a full 40 years until he saw the light. Nelson Mandela  the President of South Africa who was imprisoned for 27 years in Robbin Island he was a Christian and after came out strong still with a formidable spirit and character. 
All these things happening on the world stage at the moment reminds us of how broken this world is. The thing is Jesus didn't promise an easy life, but he did promise life itself. 

It is not a good idea to leave your faith over how you think God handled  a case that we do not have full details of. This is about your eternal life to and the chance of it, but you may make this choice. Suffering and tests can help to shape us and give us discipline as well, whilst we have a loving just God. God can still show his hand after suffering has been endured and he can restore when things are broken down as the book of Jeremiah shows (Jeremiah 29:11-13).

This was an exceptional bad thing to happen. The community to were where they and we all need to learn from this. We have the attributes of God and need to use them as human beings. Check if someone is missing, is somebody appearing strange in the home, try and follow that hunch. This can be God inspired to. We need to keep the suffering of others in our prayers to. I hope that Elizabeth and her family are doing better today. 

I think Christian values are better than no values and it can provide more framework for respecting others in society.

Sometimes in great cases of abuse, Christ I think may allow someone to end their mortal life and justice will be given  I have been mistreated at times in life and this is not God’s doing, but the sin of the other person and I have considered that they may not wish to repair some peoples body who have very badly been beaten apart by another person mentally or physically, but let them come to him. I have not experienced this, but some Saints clearly have such as Saint Agatha who had her breasts severed and who was taken by Christ eventually.

God in my experience to likes crimes to be reported and people to seek medical attention for mental or medical issues if present as well before action at times. In this both parties may have been affected mentally and God is also compassionate to the ill and today doesn't punish our enemies. Heaven may  have their rules of intervention when crimes are illegal also and needing intervention.

 God can also rescue people out of tragedy at times to and is often done by collective effort of the people using the attributes of God at times as well. God can welcome you back after some time away and always as St Theresa of Avila found to after suffering from illness, she returned to the church.

This blows me away to, but it is God at his best-"(Isaiah 44)  Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: I am the first and the last; besides me there is no God. "who is like me? Let them be proclaim it, let them declare and set it forth before me. Who has announced from old the things to come? You are my witnesses! Is there any God besides me? There is no other rock; I know not one. 

These articles are on this case-

https://premierchristian.news/en/news/article/kemi-badenoch-reveals-how-she-lost-her-faith-in-god

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/mar/19/josef-fritzl-austria

 

https://www.premierchristianity.com/testimonies/from-domestic-abuse-to-new-creation/14330.article

 

https://www.premierchristianity.com/real-life/god-rescued-my-son-from-a-coma-and-healed-him-of-brain-injuries/16114.article